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    Hi all, my idea is to have a series of scale models of Mies' iconic building including Farnsworth house, Segram building, IIT crown hall, German pavilion Barcelona etc. and maybe some of his furniture typical details ESP corner detail and materials...

    All for a relative newbie not just to maxwell but to rendering in general!

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    Post First Summary Update

    Hi Ronen and everyone

    It hasn’t been practical for me to post on a regular basis so instead I am going to do a summary of what I have done/learned so far

    First I discovered Maxwell through the free FIRE plugin released late last year.

    Rendering images myself had largely passed me by but this seemed to offer a way to use rendering during design development rather than as a final presentation device only.

    Watching all of the video tutorials got me up and running in the Sketchup(SU) plug in but I did wonder what the difference was between the plug in and the full suite.

    This competition certainly gives me that chance.

    So I started by rendering the basic model in the Maxwell Stand Alone Plug in (SA)
    I have included an image here.

    In a way this is what you get out of the ‘box’ with Ronen’s model.

    I then rendered the same image in Maxwell Render.

    I was unsure of what the different components of Maxwell do i.e. Studio, Maxell Render, Node Render and so on.

    But it seems that in Sketchup you can work with Maxwell SA to make all of the material selections quickly preview it in FIRE and/or just send it directly to render in Maxwell.

    The advantage of rendering externally seems to be quality and control as well as still being able to continue to model in SU.

    In terms of control I was amazed to see that you can change the ISO and Shutter speed in Maxwell while an image is rendering and see the changes where as in FIRE you need to change the EV value and the image will then start the rendering process all over again.

    Speed however is a huge issue. Maxwell is very very slow. This is a problem as in order to look at adjustments such as IES lighting levels, reflectivity of materials etc you need to see the almost complete image.

    A possible solution is to use a render farm so that the image is rendered much faster. I have discovered Render Rocket who do free test renders. However they only allow an SL level of 5 and the image is heavily watermarked but still does speed up the process somewhat but a lot of time is lost uploading, download and unzipping the .rar file format.


    So all in all Maxwell presents a huge learning curve for the non specialist like me.

    My next task is to try to put in a background image showing the context of the Museum in Berlin. All I can think of is Google Earth and Maps and grabbing photos..seems very time consuming would be nice if Ronen you could provide a stage set backdrop...as the exercise for me is about learning the render program rather than trying to spend too much time developing ‘other techniques’.

    Finally a small point of detail. Ronen’s model has the spot light emitter inside the overall cylinder so normally you will not see the source of the light only the light hitting the ground. Many other participants have clearly shown the lights ...possible for visual effect.

    Just wondering what the consensus is on this...are we going for realism or effect?

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    Post First Renders of Ronen's Model without any changes

    Here is one of the views saved in the SU model rendered with a basic sky dome
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    Here is an early interior render done in FIRE and then in the Standalone version before licenceName:  rb-neue-nationalgalerie-v01-02 s9 SAPI v2.jpg
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    Default Interior view with IES and Redstrip lights added and first models

    Interior view with IES and Redstrip lights added and first models Name:  rb-neue-nationalgalerie-v01-021 models added 1.jpg
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    This imaged has less noise but the rendering time was hugeName:  rb-neue-nationalgalerie-v01-021 models added 2 s12.jpg
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    Default Finally feel I am getting some where

    Added a maxwell sky in environment settings, evening light has less glare from outside and balances bettter with interior lights...next step backgroundName:  rb-neue-nationalgalerie-v01-021 ies lights added 6 SL17.jpg
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    Default Second and Final Update

    Adding a background proved to be quite a challenge.

    However elsewhere on Ronen's Blog there was a 'how to' showing someone modelling an apartment and putting a cylinder of buildings around the model to simulate an external built context.

    Taking this an an example I went to Google Earth and placing my viewpoint in the centre of the NSS I took a series of screen snaps.

    Back in SU I constructed a box around the NSS model and mapped the screen grap as a texture on the relevant face.

    I was unsure whether to cut around the buildings or not and in the end decided not to as it made the image look more fake.

    After that I wanted to add individual lights to the interior of each model.

    Once this was done I adjusted their brightness using the multi light controls.

    The fact that each building is a full size model posed problems with the file size and sometimes SU crashed on exporting to Maxwell.

    It took me a while to realise that the Standalone version of Maxwell has most of the controls offered in Maxwell Studio.

    From a work flow it seems easier to adjust the scene via the Standalone Plug In for SU and then export to render in Maxwell bypassing studio.

    Studio would appear to give more control over materials but I think that is for advanced users.

    Will post the images shortly.

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    Just another final note before uploading...
    the models use are The Farnsworth House, The German Pavilion Barcelona, The Segram Building, Lake Shore Drive Apartments and a detail of one of the apartments. Neither of these two feature strongly as the models were more google earth models rather than 3d skeleton models and so did not work as well in the overall image.

    The woman is a 3d model from the Google (Trimble?) Warehouse.

    There is no post production the entire images is from Maxwell and Modelled in Sketchup.

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    Default Final Images

    Here are the final images however I just realised that I should have set the image size in either Studio or Maxwell Scene Manager within Sketchup.

    I realised this about 4 hours ago and have tried to re render via render farm but I am not going to make it.

    However if for any reason you want these images at a higher resolution I can re render but not before the deadline.

    Now I see why it was called a challenge!
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    I just read that the images are meant to be .jpgs...so if that is the case here are jpgsName:  Image 1.jpg
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    Get your final images uploaded here too - Final Images Submission - Ronen Bekerman 3d architectural visualization blog

    Don't worry about the deadline - I'll count them in, just need this for the record.

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